Data Centers

[1skrewsloose]

Can someone explain to me the dire need for data centers in a way a simple man like me can understand? Everything that has ever been posted on the net is currently out there/somewhere for someone way smarter than me to access. I've used the wayback machine a few times. Just seems like too much like 1984ish to me. Maybe I'm being too paranoid, I've done nothing wrong, but, keep your freaking nose out of my business.

We're in way over our heads as it is, every smart device reports back to the mother ship. Its bulit in by engineers and geeks, they just don't tell you about it.

[Hawg]

All I know is I didn't need AI for the last 65 years I sure as hell don't need it now.

[1skrewsloose]

Sometimes I think a healthy dose of an EMP would be a good thing.

[~MG~]

Can someone explain to me the dire need for data centers in a way a simple man like me can understand? Everything that has ever been posted on the net is currently out there/somewhere for someone way smarter than me to access. I've used the wayback machine a few times. Just seems like too much like 1984ish to me. Maybe I'm being too paranoid, I've done nothing wrong, but, keep your freaking nose out of my business.

We're in way over our heads as it is, every smart device reports back to the mother ship. Its bulit in by engineers and geeks, they just don't tell you about it.

What's changed is quantity.

Back in the day - call it 1990>2015 - the only thing that was on the net is what we typed into it. Servers, data storage, etc, grew proportionate to the need.

Now, devices also capture data - and that data has to be stored somewhere.

In other words, not only will this post be stored forever but also data about my browsing history, the stores I shop in and when, the things I buy and how often, where I drive to and why, how fast I was going, who was with me (including conversations had) and, with the new meta glasses, the things seen.

Also, some devices can scrape/glean data from other nearby devices... Some models of Flock read more than just license plates; sensors at retail store doorways identify who just walked in and send texts about their 'special deals'... The list goes on.

AI needs a lot of server space to operate/function, yes, and that's part of the need, a big part. But don't be fooled. Every bit of information, about you or me, is valuable to someone (marketing, insurance companies, etc) and for control purposes (ala 1984). Many, massive, data centers are needed to facilitate this.

You're not paranoid.
The genie is out of the bottle.
An EMP would be nice.
A CME would be better.

[1skrewsloose]

This kind of stuff kinda scares the crap out of me in way. I don't let it grate on my nerves, but it's always at the back of my mind.

[T-Man 1066]

Agreed. I have said the decision was made to capture any and all data long before anybody was sure what the hell to do with it. I bought the book Spychips by Catherine Albrecht back in 2006 or so. She described everything that has been happening way back then. It was pretty eye opening...

[1skrewsloose]

Thanks for this, never heard of her before. Guess I'm old school, I actually like reading books.

[T-Man 1066]

She used to have a syndicated radio show for some years. I think she got the cancer and had to quit.

[~MG~]

Agreed. I have said the decision was made to capture any and all data long before anybody was sure what the hell to do with it. I bought the book Spychips by Catherine Albrecht back in 2006 or so. She described everything that has been happening way back then. It was pretty eye opening...

Yep. I used to think if I just paid cash for everything some privacy would be kept. Not anymore. Oh, it's still good to carry cash incase card readers don't work at checkout - but if you're standing there with your phone in your pocket? Or a bank card in your wallet? They got ya.

People don't realize they're happily feeding the Beast.
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There doesn't even have to be a direct benefit. Establishing an account with a seller/vendor/club puts your data online. Maybe not by you - but I guarantee by them.

[1skrewsloose]

It drives me nuts that whenever you go to a website and they want your email, yada, yada, to continue. Take a fucking leap! Seems like you can't blink without someplace wanting your personal info.

I know its not just me, nobody likes someone looking over their shoulder all the time.

[~MG~]

1skrewsloose said "This kind of stuff kinda scares the crap out of me in way. I don't let it grate on my nerves, but it's always at the back of my mind."

Same here. More so when you throw AI into the mix.

Now that it's been revealed that AI can hack outside of its own "containers" - it would have access to all the data lakes beyond what it's supposed to be 'limited' into.

For example: The AI that State Farm MIGHT use can not only access vehicle data, my driving history, traffic tickets, etc, - but also what bars I go to and when, how long I was there, what I bought, who was with me and if I drove home.

In plain English, it sucks royally that everything in our life is now monitored and recorded - but even worse is that AI facilitates that massive amount of our personal data to be compiled, and used, without our knowledge or consent, in ways we have no control over.

[1skrewsloose]

State Farm!!?? I've been with them since I was 16. Good to know, they're history now.

[~MG~]

1skrewsloose Skrewy - NOOOO !
I used that as an example because it's a well-known insurance company. State Farm may or may not be watching what & when you drink. I should have been more clear!!! I fixed the post!!! Sorry!!!

P.s..That said, your location(s) would be included in the "vehicle data" available to insurers.

[1skrewsloose]

No harm, no foul, they've all been doing it under our noses for years anyway. State Farm has been ticking me off for a while now. I pay close to $4k/year to insure cars that maybe get driven 25 miles a week.

[1skrewsloose]

My eyes have been opened so much in the last fews hours, I never knew these companies were using AI all this time and keeping it hush, hush. That got me pissed off.

[~MG~]

The more people stay twisted up over AI, the less they'll focus on (or realize) data center's "other" purpose.

[1skrewsloose]

What part of "Just leave me the fuck alone" don't these people understand?

[~MG~]

Oh, they understand it.
But if there's control or money to be had they don't give a shit what you say, because there's nothing you can do about it.

Actually, there is - but most people wouldn't choose that lifestyle.

[1skrewsloose]

I get it, when I think about all the major conveniences I can do without, I wonder at times why am I living like this? If I have food and water and a warm home in winter and a cool one in summer, I'm a happy camper. I'm so easy to please, I just don't ask for much, probably one of my shortcomings.

[Texas PO]

I was always leery of people knowing my business, even casually. And I never liked the argument that if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. Bull shit. I have no doubt that eventually all of this data gathering and tracking will be used by some dystopian government to control "We the People". It's already being done, for our own good of course.

I used to believe it was a thing of the future but it's already here and surpassing any thing George Orwell could have imagined. Sadly, As MG said the Genie is out of the bottle and he ain't going back in. AI is just speeding up the process and the fact of the matter is the first to control it wins. I don't necessarily worry about AI becoming sentient and taking over the world, but I do worry about the men who control it so they can control world.

[~MG~]

I get it, when I think about all the major conveniences I can do without, I wonder at times why am I living like this? If I have food and water and a warm home in winter and a cool one in summer, I'm a happy camper. I'm so easy to please, I just don't ask for much, probably one of my shortcomings.

Same. I enjoy all the modern things: electricity, hot showers, the convenience of tapping a card instead of having to deal with cash.... it all makes life easier, yeah?

It used to be the only downside to modern things was getting fat and lazy, LOL. No more washing by hand or chopping wood or planting a garden...

But with these particular "modern things", we not only get fat and lazy - we also lose our privacy and freedom.

And I'm just not sure that it's worth the price.

[1skrewsloose]

And I'm just not sure that it's worth the price. you're 100% correct, freedoms easily given up are damn near impossible to get get back!!

[1skrewsloose]

Wild animals don't get depressed in nature, they get depressed in captivity, think about where you spend your time. We are animals, human animals, we think we are doing a favor by putting animals in zoo's, it is like putting them in jail, what you got to complain about, you got 3 hots and a cot.

[~MG~]

This is an interesting read re an AI kill switch.
Newsom must think there's a digital wall around California.

Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., attempted to introduce a federal AI kill switch bill this week, but his effort was blocked by Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/newsom-advances-ai-kill-switch-mandate-under-new-california-executive-order